My first blog post addressing this subject can be found here, and I talk about the guilt trip and manipulative (not to mention false) “greater good” line here. I encourage you to read both of these posts before reading this one, because those are the foundation of this post.

In this post, I would like to prove to you that unvaccinated children pose less of a threat to society than vaccinated children do, and that vaccines do not contribute to herd immunity.

To begin with, I just want to point out that if you actually have any of the 16 diseases we vaccinate against, there is no law to keep you away from school, daycare, or any other public space. Hepatitis B? Please come to school, we will not discriminate against you. Unvaccinated? STAY AWAY! YOU’RE COVERED IN PLAGUE!

Also, I want to note the contradiction between travelling to a place that doesn’t vaccinate and how you can be persuaded to trust in the bubble of your vaccine’s protection, but be made to fearfully eye your possibly unvaccinated neighbor in a society that is 90-98% vaccinated.

I’m going to go through each one of these diseases as quickly as possible and end with measles, since I’ll probably spend more time there.

Hepatitis B. I discuss this in more detail here, but as it pertains to herd immunity, the vaccine does nothing. Number one, because (as mentioned above) a child with the actual disease is welcome in all public spaces, and number 2 because it is a blood bourne illness and cannot spread in a community setting unless risky behaviors are taking place.

Polio. The eradication of polio is attributed to the oral polio vaccine which has been discontinued due to safety concerns (I won’t get into that now, maybe I’ll do a post on polio someday, but today is not that day). We now use the inactivated polio vaccine and it is meant to protect the person getting the vaccine, not to contribute to herd immunity. Here is proof of how ineffective it would be if polio were to ever “come back”:

Source here

“This table documents that 91% of children receiving no IPV (control group B) were colonized with live attenuated poliovirus upon deliberate experimental inoculation. Children who were vaccinated with IPV (groups A and C) were similarly colonized at the rate of 94-97%. High counts of live virus were recovered from the stool of children in all groups. These results make it clear that IPV cannot be relied upon for the control of poliovirus.” -Immunologist, Tetyana Obukhanych

If you’re worried about polio making a come-back, I would like to ease your mind. There hasn’t been a case of wild polio in the entire United States since 1979. In 2017, there were only two cases of wild polio in the entire world.

Tetanus: not contagious. It is acquired from a deep puncture wound with any item covered in C tetani spores. The vaccine is given for personal protection only.

Diphtheria: contagious. But the vaccine targets the toxoid, which gives personal protection, but does not inhibit the spread of diphtheria. And this is another one that is so rare, I don’t think anyone is worried about it.

Pertussis: This is where things get tetchy, so please read carefully. Not only is the vaccine targeting a toxoid (just like tetanus and diphtheria) and thus only protects the person getting the vaccine, it also makes you a silent carrier. [1] “Pertussis is a highly contagious respiratory illness caused by the bacterial pathogen Bordetella pertussis. Pertussis rates in the United States have been rising and reached a 50-y high of 42,000 cases in 2012. Although pertussis resurgence is not completely understood, we hypothesize that current acellular pertussis (aP) vaccines fail to prevent colonization and transmission
To test our hypothesis, infant baboons were vaccinated at 2, 4, and 6 mo of age with aP or whole-cell pertussis (wP) vaccines and challenged with B. pertussis at 7 mo. Infection was followed by quantifying colonization in nasopharyngeal washes and monitoring leukocytosis and symptoms. Baboons vaccinated with aP were protected from severe pertussis-associated symptoms but not from colonization, did not clear the infection faster than naïve animals, and readily transmitted B. pertussis to unvaccinated contacts. The observation that aP, which induces an immune response mismatched to that induced by natural infection, fails to prevent colonization or transmission provides a plausible explanation for the resurgence of pertussis and suggests that optimal control of pertussis will require the development of improved vaccines.”
So if you’re thinking of telling the grandparents to get a booster before coming to visit your newborn baby, please, for the safety of your tiny child, please don’t. If the grandparents were to actually get pertussis, they would be symptomatic (coughing) and would likely stay away. When you’re vaccinated, there’s no way to know if you have it, and then you kiss all over baby, and boom.

The DTaP is the one we get 6 times and then a booster every time we get a cut (for tetanus), every time we’re pregnant (for pertussis), and every 10 years regardless. It’s arguably almost as ineffective as the flu shot (and that’s saying something).

It actually wanes within 2 to 4 years, not 10. [2]

The FDA did the study above with baboons and they’ve published the following: “This research suggests that although individuals immunized with an acellular pertussis vaccine may be protected from disease, they may still become infected with the bacteria without always getting sick and are able to spread infection to others, including young infants who are susceptible to pertussis disease.” in a press release, but the CDC keeps recommending it to grandparents and anyone visiting a newborn. Maybe they don’t know about the FDA’s study and press release? I guess it was only 6 years ago. I’m sure these things take time.

And then there’s the fact that: pertussis variants (PRN-negative strains) currently circulating in the USA acquired a selective advantage to infect those who are up-to-date for their DTaP boosters, meaning that people who are up-to-date are more likely to be infected, and thus contagious, than people who are not vaccinated.[3]

I want to keep going on this, to talk about how most pertussis outbreaks occur in the fully (6 vaccines) vaccinated, I want to really hammer this home, but I think I’ve made this very clear, and one must stop somewhere. Plus, I’m trying to keep this post succinct and as short as possible.

HIB or H influenzae type B: as you might have guessed from the “type B”, there are many types, and the use of the HIB vaccine has shifted the dominance from type B strain influenzae to strains a through f. Just like antibiotics create super bugs through overuse, when you vaccinate against one strain of something, there’s always a risk that a worse strain might take its place. “These types have been causing invasive disease of high severity and increasing incidence in adults in the era of Hib vaccination of children. The general population is more vulnerable to the invasive disease now than it was prior to the start of the Hib vaccination campaign.” Dr. T.O. [4] I would venture to say we have bigger problems than an unvaccinated child spreading HIB, but I’ll leave that for you to decide.

Pneumonia: Same strain story, not super contagious.

Flu: I can’t talk about this vaccine without getting angry so I’m going to try and keep this very, very short. Some of them shed: [5, 6, 7]

They’re so ineffective it’s hard to imagine why anyone would risk the vaccine and all its possible side effects for such a low chance of protection. The highest coverage has been 60%. That’s only a little higher chance than a coin toss. The lowest is 10%, which honestly means a big fat ZERO to me (they just don’t want to admit it’s zero, in my skeptical opinion). [8] And these are MANDATED for healthcare workers. It just baffles and irritates me to no end.

The more you get, the less they work. [9]

And it’s not without risk. I go over this more in my influenza post. If received in the first trimester of pregnancy, it’s been linked to miscarriage. [10] and autism [11].

Rotavirus: live vaccine:

5.4 Shedding and Transmission
Rotavirus shedding in stool occurs after vaccination with peak excretion occurring around Day 7 after Dose 1.
One clinical trial demonstrated that vaccinees transmit vaccine virus to healthy seronegative contacts [see Clinical Pharmacology (12.2)].
The potential for transmission of vaccine virus following vaccination should be weighed against the possibility of acquiring and transmitting natural rotavirus.”
[12]

Hepatitis A: I don’t think this is a major concern, and I haven’t researched deeply, but here is the package insert if you want to read up on it and decide if the risk is worth the protection: (I can find no proof that it contributes to herd immunity and assume there is none, but please correct me if this assumption is incorrect).

Meningitis: This is actually the description of a set of symptoms, not an actual disease. It can be caused by viruses, bacteria, and fungi. We vaccinate against one of the bacterial strains. The type of meningitis that is contagious is viral, and there is no vaccine for a viral strain. So no herd immunity here either.

Chicken Pox: If you’re scared of this one, it’s too late, you’re already indoctrinated and there’s probably nothing I can do for you. If not, then I don’t have much to say about this one as pertains to herd immunity other than vaccinated or unvaccinated, the risk is likely the same, because the vaccine is live and thus, it sheds:

“5.4 Risk of Vaccine Virus Transmission
Post-marketing experience suggests that transmission of vaccine virus may occur rarely between healthy vaccinees who develop a varicella-like rash and healthy susceptible contacts. Transmission of vaccine virus from a mother who did not develop a varicella-like rash to her newborn infant has been reported. Due to the concern for transmission of vaccine virus, vaccine recipients should attempt to avoid whenever possible close association with susceptible high-risk individuals for up to six weeks following vaccination with VARIVAX. Susceptible high-risk individuals include:
• Immunocompromised individuals;
• Pregnant women without documented history of varicella or laboratory evidence of prior infection;
• Newborn infants of mothers without documented history of varicella or laboratory evidence of prior infection and all newborn infants born at <28 weeks gestation regardless of maternal varicella immunity.
[13]

Rubella: live vaccine: “Excretion of small amounts of the live attenuated rubella virus from the nose or throat has occurred in
the majority of susceptible individuals 7 to 28 days after vaccination.
[14]

Mumps: also a live vaccine that sheds [15] I’m going to do an entire post on mumps in the near future and I don’t want to give away any spoilers, so I shall leave it at that for now.

Measles: The reason they rarely test measles patients for the strain of measles they’re infected with is because it almost always comes back as vaccine strain. [16, 17, 18]

Even the infamous Disney measles outbreak was 38% vaccine strain measles. [19]

Since then, the motto seems to be “If you don’t look for something, you won’t find it.” And that seems to be working, so long as they keep blaming the unvaccinated as long and as loud as they possibly can, and people as a whole, disappointingly believe the shouting without ever questioning the truth behind it at all.

Until they prove me wrong and do some actual genotyping and publish the results, I will continue to believe that these outbreaks are partly caused by the vaccine.

Something that is so lost in the hysteria is the fact that these infections are preventable in other ways (healthy immune system) and treatable if gotten. I’m not going to go into major detail, because that’s not the point of this particular post, but as I cover them all, I will try to explore those options a little more. It seems that once we have a vaccine, the mentality becomes that it’s the only prevention, treatment, and salvation from dying of the disease. That mindset is simply not based in fact, and you don’t have to live in fear, whether you vaccinate (and still fear the unvaccinated AND the disease itself), or don’t vaccinate. Life is risk. But there’s a way of measuring those risks, and it’s not by making blanket statements that aren’t based in actual facts or science. Blaming antivaxxers for the “return” of disease is at the top of a list of very unscientific things to say, and literally has no basis in fact, but they get away with saying it, and I really wish people would question a little more.

In the end, common sense tells you that those who spread disease are most likely those who are carriers but not showing symptoms. The truth is, when you’re not artificially messing with your immune system, or full of attenuated disease, you KNOW when you’re sick, and will not be out in public. You’ll be in the hospital, or you’ll be at home. If anyone is spreading disease, it’s the vaccinated.

  1. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24277828
  2. https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/135/6/981
  3. http://www.cdc.gov/maso/facm/pdfs/BSCOID/2013121112_BSCOID_Minutes.pdf
  4. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21888789
  5. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21513761
  6. http://vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/nasal-flu-vaccine
  7. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18662737
  8. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/09/why-flu-vaccines-so-often-fail
  9. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4387051/
  10. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28917295
  11. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27893896
  12. https://www.gsksource.com/pharma/content/dam/GlaxoSmithKline/US/en/Prescribing_Information/Rotarix/pdf/ROTARIX-PI-PIL.PDF
  13. https://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/v/varivax/varivax_pi.pdf
  14. https://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/m/mmr_ii/mmr_ii_pi.pdf
  15. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26954106
  16. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/mystery-solved-northern-ontario-toddler-didn-t-have-measles-health-unit-says-1.2257693
  17. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20822734
  18. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24330942
  19. https://jcm.asm.org/content/55/3/735

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